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[justscribing]

The manner it restocks is still an unknown as it always seems to occur when no one is looking even if you attempt to watch it.

The speed of replenishment has been slowing down, but with districts continuing to open up we aren't yet at a point where there are less resources than people. I suspect it's meant to encourage a population spread, but that doesn't mean we'll always have plentiful resources.

This is the most recent speed of restocking I've tracked:

Absolute necessities (water, prepared food): 3 days

Medicine and food in convenience stores: 11 days

Grocers: 20 days

Everything else seems to be longer than a month.

[strongroots]

[ That's all certainly an answer. ]

anyone tried putting leftover stock into a new place before everything gets refilled? does everything get changed out when the restock happens?

[justscribing]

Not that I've heard. It fills in the empty spots so if you were to attempt to store food it would need to be done some place that things don't normally restock. An apartment or the bank for example. Not unlike a normal run of supplies, in greater bulk.

[strongroots]

plenty of apartments around and shops with the stuff to do it properly. take freezers from any shops around and make shelves, and preserve fresh foods so they can stick.

same with the foods. if all that restocks and nothing happens with what's stored elsewhere, then you can work on stockpiling just in case.

[justscribing]

Perishable are riskier if something such as the freezer shutting down were to happen, but if your intention is to keep a long term stockpile for future resource strain you'll have to monitor regularly anyway to ensure it hasn't been cleared out or removed. Some people will be nosy and you'll need to secure against that.

[strongroots]

thinking the freezer more for the food that needs it, stuff that's already frozen. the fresh food, you can it and stuff like that. whatever we can do to it.

but we don't need it to be a secret. share the intention and let people add to it if they want.

[justscribing]

But you do need to account for people who will be selfish and careless over resources, both before and after it becomes necessary. If you let people take too much from it while there's still plenty of food accessed elsewhere you'll never have enough stored away for the time when there isn't.

[strongroots]

and what happens to it if we disappear one day? you can get more hands and help protecting it and getting food sorted and stored away, people are gonna notice if shops and restaurants are getting emptied before a restock. you can make a separate stock that not everyone knows about if you want to be careful, but if people are going to snoop around looking for food, i know i'm not gonna be able to stop half the people that find it.

better to get more people on board to keep it going. make a test run if you want. have a front facing stockpile and then another that's not public, see what happens and if the public one gets messed with. but the more people you have behind the idea, the more reason they have to protect it.

[justscribing]

I haven't said anything about actually assisting with this, but you should consider any and all pitfalls so you can mitigate them before implementation. There are different risks based on your decision to keep it a secret between a select few people or not.

You can be open about it, and you'll get more people who have a vested interest in assisting. You'll also put it at greater risk to bad actors and need to plan for that accordingly.

You bring up another good question, however: how will the city define ownership of this? Based on Kaveh's tests, things left within stable buildings don't seem to disappear, but we don't know if that's because the city still considers the papers he left behind as "his". Has anyone lost a roommate recently that we could determine if joint ownership is recognized?

[strongroots]

i don't know, but if the items are meant for everyone, then maybe they'll stay. it would need to be tested.

[justscribing]

It will be difficult to test reliably when we have little control over when someone disappears, however we already have data in the people that have disappeared so far. You'd only have to ask around. Sometimes what you need isn't an experiment, but the right information.

[Does that mean asking people about the potentially sensitive topic of their friends up and disappearing? Yes.]

[strongroots]

isn't there a difference between someone moving an item meant for everyone and if that stays there compared to items between two roommates?

they get it for each other. the item moved or prepared for a stockpile for everyone is for everyone in the city.

[ If Robby's following the idea of ownership.... ]

[justscribing]

But there's no way to be certain if the city is identifying your stockpile as ownership under yourself or everyone unless you disappear. However, if join ownership has established precedent you could at least mitigate the risk of its disappearance by having a handful of people who bear responsibility for it.

Much the same way that changes to the public buildings only seem to stick when someone has claimed it in some manner, whereas changes made to place that haven't been are reset.

[strongroots]

so a larger joint ownership over a project like it would be safer. there's still the risk of stock going away, or one day you can find out if stockpiling for other people makes it stay. maybe there's things left behind like that. i remember mr. fell was asking for help writing copies of the kiosk answers in case they disappeared.

[ So, that might mean something if they stuck around or not. ]

[justscribing]

And those kiosks disappeared about a month ago.

It sounds like you have an idea to start with. This is a good time to work out your logistics on a smaller scale, before it becomes necessary. I recommend focusing on foods that we wouldn't be capable of growing ourselves, such as grains and animal products. You may also want to consider other necessities such as hygienics that would be a problem to run out of before we could reliably produce them ourselves.

[strongroots]

and what about you? what are you going to do?

[justscribing]

Kaveh and I have discussed building a machine to look past the barrier around this place.

[strongroots]

you gonna try it?

[justscribing]

That would be why we have discussed it, yes.

[strongroots]

depends if you discussed it and decided it was possible. i'm not the guy to start a public or secret stockpile for the city

but good luck with it

[justscribing]

[Oh.]

What makes you say that? You're dedicated enough to the idea to pursue opinions on it.

[strongroots]

i mean, i asked about how the city restocks cause you talked about the greenhouse and resources, and i read a book about preserves. it got me thinking.

but being the guy to do it is, uh, kind of over my head

[justscribing]

And what do you consider within your capability?

[strongroots]

what? in general?

[justscribing]

Sure, in general. You must have something you've accomplished that sets a baseline for what you can do.